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What is the difference between a Rove and Burr? Is there a difference when using Sq cut and round nails?

Asked on 08/11/2018 by Bill everything wood from Chesterfield, Mi.

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  Roves are dish or cup shaped and burrs are flat washers.   Roves tend to be larger in outside diameter for the same inside hole diameter. Fundamentally there are only small differences between round and square cross sectional area.  Square nails fit into the hole more tightly  if the distance across the flats is used to size the predrilled hole.  The square corners engrave the wood and the rove.

Answered on 08/11/2018 by kvaughan
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Hi Start with the nail, square or round, round first, they are called 'plain round nails' when planking a hull its done, it has to be done quickly with just one pilot hole drilled, as the planks are bent round the hull they put stress on the frames. If you try to rivet the nails it would take time to do so unfair stress unequal on either side would occur. If you want to be quick about it, you would not rivet this nail and it would be short and not come through the frame, it just locates the plank on the frame in position so the riveting can take place at your leisure, to make that more sure to hold the plank you Burr the nail, similar to a barb on a fish hook, it will not or be difficult to remove the nail. Round nails are easy to make and use, also putting a barb or barbs on it. 2nd Square nail, a round hole is drilled in the plank as before, but this nail is square and will not go through the hole ie. a 1/4" square nail is driven into a 1/4" round hole, compression on the corners deform the wood and acts like a clamp on the nail, this nails pilot hole allows the nail to be driven right though the plank and frame in one go, ready for riveting. Rove is the washer, it has a tiny hole about 1/16" in the centre, and is shaped like a satellite dish, you locate that on the nail end inside, and with someone holding a heavy sledge hammer to stop the nail coming out, a special tool and clever man with a hammer force the rove 1/16" hole down the 1/4" square nail, this is called setting the rove, the nail is then cut off about a 1/4" above the rove which has gripped the nail very tight, again a man outside places a weight on the nail head and the clever man hammers the end inside forming the rivet rose shape. The quickest and cheapest way (work boats) was to just hammer a plain round nail through a pilot hole and just hammer it over into the frame inside no burrs no roves. Roy......a Liverpool England sailor man My boat 82 years young, used plain round to locate all planks, 18 each side. This took 4 hours only, pilot holes were then drilled and one square nail was roved and riveted in each plank on each frame. 26 frames. this took 2 weeks but produced a very fair hull shape. yacht Guiding Light, 1936 Gauntlet Class Marconi rigged 12 ton Cutter

Answered on 08/15/2018 by yacht.guiding.light

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I have worked with the copper nails & rove and had very good results. A rove punch will be needed, I made one from a 1" round dowel & round wooden cabinet door pull. Too peen the nail I used an air driven palm-hammer. I liked the design of the rove in that the edges set into the wood, I have not used the burr or the square nail.

Answered on 08/11/2018 by srichardt

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  Roves are dish or cup shaped and burrs are flat washers.   Roves tend to be larger in outside diameter for the same inside hole diameter. Fundamentally there are only small differences between round and square cross sectional area.  Square nails fit into the hole more tightly  if the distance across the flats is used to size the predrilled hole.  The squar

Answered on 08/11/2018 by kvaughan

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Roves are convex, not flat as a burr. A burr is just a flat washer. They are both used with round nails. I do not know if they should be used with cut nails

Answered on 08/14/2018 by hp300
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THE DIAMETER OF MY COPPER NAILS IS 1/8". I NEED THE DIAMETER OF THE ROVE TO BE 1/8". WHICH SIZE ROVE SHOULD I ORDER?

Asked on 01/24/2020 by BRUCE from WILMINGTON, DE

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It depends on the nail. That dimension doesn't match standard nail gauges. It will be either a 5/8" or 3/4" Rove.

Answered on 01/24/2020 by Paul
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Dose the copper nail and rove come in the same box or do they have to be order each ? How long are the nails?

Asked on 06/06/2017 by Rodney from Oceanport, nj

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Nails and roves are sold separately. Be sure to match the rove ID with the nail gauge. Nails are in various lengths.

Answered on 06/27/2017 by JD Tech Team
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