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Solid Back Brass Half Oval Trim Customer Questions and Answers

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What fasteners are recommeded for use with the 3/8 inch wide half oval? Thanks, Steve

Asked on 08/27/2011 by Undisclosed

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Counter sink hole with an oval head.

Answered on 09/02/2011 by APRIL SALEM
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We used oval-head #8'x 1.

Answered on 09/02/2011 by BILL FRAME

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I used 3/4" #16 Brass Escutcheon Pins. Drilled the half oval and counter sunk a little, then drove pins into half oval and bedded this into an epoxy/wood flour mix. I used the half oval for stem banding on a canoe.

Answered on 09/07/2011 by TIM SEARS

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I used 1" x 8 brass oval head screws which I bought from Jamestown. As the trim is not drilled, I made a jig from a 12ft length of 2" x 6" , in one end I screwed two of the screws exactly 8" apart, so that they were left about 3/8" proud. I cut the heads off. The plank was lined up with the drill press. after scribing a mark 1" from the end I drilled a hole which would closely accept the #8 screw, a second hole was drilled exactly 8" away, now the trim could be moved so that the screws located the trim precisely so that the drill press made the third hole at 8", thus by moving the trim each subsequent hole was drilled exactly 8" apart. When the holes were finished it was all repeated with a counter sink adjusted so that each drilling was the correct depth. The jig may take a little while to set up, but the time saved by not having to measure each hole was great. I had 8 12 ft lengths to drill, a lot of holes.

Answered on 09/01/2011 by NORMAN COVE

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Hi Steve, It really depends on what you're using the brass stock for. I used the 1/2 oval stock for protecting the bottom-board on an adirondack guideboat I built. I used #6 oval head brass wood screws. It took about two strokes with a mill file to bring the oval heads completely flush with the bar stock. If you're planning an application where cosmetics are more important than a rub strips on the bottom of a boat, I'd recommend something like an oval head brass finish nail. I hope this helps!

Answered on 09/01/2011 by LYLE BOGART

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I used silicon bronze #6 screws to fasten to my bow. Works perfect

Answered on 09/01/2011 by DAVID ANDERSON

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I used half inch #6 Philips. More important than the specific fastener is that you do not go greater than 6" apart. 4"to 5" is probably best. Otherwise, when it is exposed to the sun it will begin to scallop.

Answered on 09/04/2011 by TOM TOWNSEND MARINE WOODWORKING

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I used #4 oval head wood screw, the longer the better. The tricky part is drilling the holes with countersink into the trim. I used combined drill/countersink size #2 (link below) in a drill press and it is very tricky to get the depth correct. I think the oval shape makes the bit pull the trim up once the verticle edge of the bit starts boring. Limit the depth so that the tapered part does not go through the bottom which will make the pilot hole to large. You will want to practice boring a few holes to get the depth stop set on your drill press before drilling the work piece. < a href="http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show" target="_blank">http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show< /a>_product.do?pid=1270&familyName=Combined+Drill+%26+Countersinks

Answered on 09/15/2011 by JOHN BECK

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I use #4 Oval Head Wood Screws x 1/2"

Answered on 09/01/2011 by DAVID OSBORN

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# 8 oval head bronze screw

Answered on 09/01/2011 by JAMES ARTHUR
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So this might be a silly question - is it possible to cut these down to less than 6'? What would be the best way to do this? Thanks - Colin

Asked on 02/14/2012 by colin ryan

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Aloha Colin, The trim can be cut to any size required with a hacksaw. Pat

Answered on 02/16/2012 by PAT MOORE
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sure, brass is a soft metal and cuts easily with a fine tooth hacksaw blade. I have used a fine tooth metal blade in a bosch jigsaw, and by hand. you can refine the cut edge with files or sandpaper on a hard block. Shines beautifully with oooo steel wool. I have made nice miter joints to trim out wooden boat seats this way

Answered on 02/15/2012 by DOROTHY KEISLER

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Colin...yes...they come in about 36" long pieces...or at least the ones I bought did. The brass is soft enought to cut with a hacksaw. Just clamp the piece in a vise and saw away to your desired length.....should take about 1 minute per cut with a good blade in your hacksaw. Best, John

Answered on 02/14/2012 by JOHN CHRISTIANSEN

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Brass is relatively soft and can be cut with a hack saw, abrasive cutoff wheel, or even a metal shear.

Answered on 02/14/2012 by ERIC DRAKE

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Yes, it is rather easy if you use a regular hand powered hacksaw. Cut it just a little longer than the final length so that you can use a file to smooth the finish.

Answered on 02/14/2012 by BROWNE ALTMAN

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Yes, it cuts easily with a hack saw. Long lengths look better on a rub rail application because of the fair curve without joints, It drills and countersinks easily as well. I center punch the spot before drilling. Good luck, J

Answered on 02/14/2012 by JEFFREY KENNEY

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Hi, The brass is relatively soft. I was able to cut it with a hack saw, taper the ends with a file and drill countersunk mounting holes in it. Hope this helps. Bruce

Answered on 02/14/2012 by BRUCE KNOTT

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It's easy to cut with a hack saw then touched up with a file. That's what I did. It's brass so very easy to work with.

Answered on 02/14/2012 by PATRICK WILLIAMS

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Technically, since this is brass, you could cut it with any fine tooth steel saw, but the easiest way is with a hacksaw. Clamp it to a piece of wood for a backing board and saw it at whatever angle you want. The burrs on the cut edge can be smoothed with sandpaper.

Answered on 02/15/2012 by NORMAN GRENELL

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I cut it with a fine tooth hack saw

Answered on 02/14/2012 by MOBILE MARINE SERVICES CORP
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does this come with pre drilled holes?

Asked on 11/25/2015 by john kraus

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No it didn't come with drilled holes. I learned the hard way..... Bend the piece to where you are going to put it.... and then drill the holes. I made the mistake of drilling all the holes... but in the area where there was a large turn, the trim accidentally broke, due to the stress... Good luck! Great product....

Answered on 11/26/2015 by Mark Alan Lovewell
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No. You want to drill and countersink your own to match the configuration of the bumber line.

Answered on 11/26/2015 by LARRY JOHNSON

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No

Answered on 11/26/2015 by G KERE KEMP

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No. You need to center punch your holes. It is hard to punch them exactly on a curved surface, so next time I would use a pre drilled guide over the brass to center each hole exactly. Even though they are in a place where you don't notice irregularities, it's a good policy to make everything as uniform and mechanical as possible. Spoken by a retired Plumber.

Answered on 12/09/2015 by ROY LIBBY

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There are no pre drilled holes on this one.

Answered on 11/26/2015 by SCOTT ROBERTS

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No, you must drill your own holes. Start with a punch and put a starting nick in the brass. The drill will stay in that place and not slide off. I found that slow drill speeds on my hand power drill worked best.

Answered on 11/26/2015 by Weaver Lilley

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No, we drilled and counter sunk ourselves Ken Crast

Answered on 11/26/2015 by KEN CRAST

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No.

Answered on 11/26/2015 by PHILIP BROWN

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what I ordered didn't ,so u will need to make a jig to hold the stock and a drill press,I made a small set with a punch as well good luck

Answered on 11/26/2015 by TIMOTHY TUCKER

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Nope.

Answered on 11/26/2015 by BARRY SMITH
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I am building a custom wood skiff....want something that looks good but tough enough to bang against docks....what are my options short of stainless? jim

Asked on 03/20/2012 by Jim Greene

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Thanks April! Just want to make sure there wasn't something bran new and better out there...looks like from the feed back I am getting, the brass half oval is the way to go......THANKS AGAIN!

Answered on 03/23/2012 by Jim Greene
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Hey Eric....thanks! This is a juniper planked hull, 21' X 8' beam and we did do the rub rail also in juniper with clear exoxy finish. The brass I think will look the best and your right, cost the most. All the planks are 21' and the youngest piece of wood is 17 years old....going to be sweet! Thanks for everyones help!!! jim

Answered on 03/20/2012 by Jim Greene

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Thanks Patrick!

Answered on 03/20/2012 by Jim Greene

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Jim, I use the brass half oval for this purpose. I have it on the top of my combings and also outside of chocks on the cap rail. Being brass it is easily cut and shaped to fit where I need it. I have a classic wooden boat and can not imagine stainless- the half oval works great. Bed it with Dolfinite and you can remove it easily for yearly varnish...

Answered on 03/23/2012 by APRIL SALEM

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Jim, look at some boat building references. Usually the rub rail or guard is grooved with a round groove and the rope is fastened and recessed into the groove. I may have a couple photos of this but some books like Gregg Roessl may have some tips. Bob

Answered on 03/20/2012 by ROBERT BROTEN

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I put this on the bottom of my nutshell dinghy on the skeg as suggested in the plans. It seems to do the job fine for keeping the skeg protected during a landing. It's brass so it tarnishes.

Answered on 03/20/2012 by PATRICK WILLIAMS

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Thanks Bob....I am talking about the rub rail on the gunwale. I was told to look at different alloy's like "naval bronze", other metles that have more copper or bronze in them. This is going to be a "show boat", but I want to use it and not be polishing or buffing every time some one leans up against it....and didn't want to clear coat it either. Thanks in advance for you help. jim

Answered on 03/20/2012 by Jim Greene

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I build wood rowing sculls & pulling boats and have used the half oval brass strips (3/8") for the keel and (1/2") for the skegs. I set these in 3M 5200 sealant with oval head brass screws at approx. 8" o.c. You must be careful after drilling for screws since the metal wants to bend at these points and can break if your holes are too large for the material width. More and smaller screws are better. So far (4 years) I have been able to drag my boats up onto docks and dollys without any real problems or wear to the boats themselves. I would probably use a softer flexible material for rails so you do not damage the surface you might rub against, like another hull.

Answered on 03/20/2012 by Bill S

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I ended up using southern yellow pine painted rubrail and was super careful and always had my fenders ready. Alternatively, one could use a nice heavy rope or cordage. Wooden boat offers a canvas/rope rubrail of sorts or the brass would look good but alot of work drilling and installing and caulking and....paying for it! Eric

Answered on 03/20/2012 by ERIC JOHNSON

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If you are concerned about the stem, the half oval is a good item and used on most craft. If you are talking about the gunwale, you can fasten a rope bumper that is often seen. Bob

Answered on 03/20/2012 by ROBERT BROTEN
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is it ore drilled ?

Asked on 06/27/2016 by Ted Chisholm

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The solid brass half oval was not drilled.. we drilled to suit. Chrome plated before installed.

Answered on 06/27/2016 by JOHN CADDELL
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It is not pre-drilled.

Answered on 06/27/2016 by melanie curley

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No

Answered on 06/27/2016 by HUBERT BITNER

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I assume you meant to write: "Is it pre-drilled". The answer is no. My recommendation is to bend the brass into the needed shape then drill it because if you pre-drilled it (or if it came pre-drilled), the brass would probably break at one of the drilled hole. I used it on my spray rails and it works/looks great.

Answered on 06/27/2016 by LARY KUHNS

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No.

Answered on 06/27/2016 by LARRY JOHNSON

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do you see any holes? No

Answered on 06/27/2016 by ROY LIBBY

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No, you will need a drill press. Be careful not to bend the trim while drilling.

Answered on 06/27/2016 by LANCE FRANKE
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Thickness of half oval? Everyone knows that half round is half as thick as it is wide (by definition). What is the thickness of one-inch half oval, for instance.

Asked on 09/08/2015 by Thomas McNeil

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I just installed a replacement section on my boat. The thickness is approximately ¥Ë_¥Ë__ inch.

Answered on 09/08/2015 by LARRY JOHNSON
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I bought 1/2" half oval. It is about 1/12" thick, practically flat on one side, and oval on the other.

Answered on 09/08/2015 by PHILIP BROWN

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It's on the bottom of my boat which is in the water but I would estimate it to be around 3/16"

Answered on 09/08/2015 by Weaver Lilley

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Greetings Tom, A common misconception of "half oval" as it is not one-half as thick as wide. In example, I selected five-eighths inch half oval which is three-sixteenths inch thick. Any greater thickness would make it difficult to shape as in gunnel-edge-molding, particularly where it needs to me malleable for vertical shaping. I drilled for #4x3/4 brass oval head slotted wood screws at 6 inch spacing with great success. Caution: Use a drill press, pilot hole, then a proper #4 counter-bore bit. Careful, it tended to "bite", and you must properly support both ends of the six foot sections. Enjoy and Safe Working. BG

Answered on 09/09/2015 by WILLIAM J. GRIEWE

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Sorry, but can't give an answer as I am in NJ now and the oval brass is in Florida. Obviously it is less than the half round trim.

Answered on 09/08/2015 by JOHN CADDELL
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No longer pre drilled?

Asked on 05/26/2015 by John Cole

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Good product be careful when drilling.

Answered on 05/29/2015 by TERRY ELLIS
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I drilled mounting holes every six inches to allow secure attachment on the curved gunnels. I used #4x1/2" oval head bronze screws. Solid attachment. Caution: Use a #4 Recess Bit to drill the counter-bores. I tried a 1/4" Twist Drill Bit, but because of the oval shape, the bit grabbed and tore completely through. Proper tool story. Use a drill press for appropriate control. Finis/Fit the butt ends with a fine file and 220 grit sanding disk. Great material, but use 600 grit wet/dry paper to remove the factory lacquer and polish with a soap Brillo Pad, nice shine. Then spray with Rustoleum Clear Enamel to prevent tarnish, and install. Carefully, you'll be happy with your task, worth the cost.

Answered on 05/29/2015 by WILLIAM J. GRIEWE

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It is not pre-drilled. This allows you to determine the spacing appropriate to your needs. I am installing 1/2" oval trim on the bow of a CLC Skerry now. It drills and countersinks relatively easily. I practiced on one end first. That turned out be to a wise move, just to get the process down. I use a drill press with clamps.

Answered on 05/26/2015 by MICHAEL NANFITO

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I purchased in November 2014 and it is not pre-drilled. You need to go with the stainless steel half oval to get the pre-drilled holes.

Answered on 05/27/2015 by SCOTT ROBERTS

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Not drilled, you will need a drill press to drill and to countersink it. Bends easily, so put a board over the drill press hole when drilling or you will cause it to get "wavy" and will not get flat against the surface to which you wish to attach it. Be careful to drill holes dead center. Use round head screws, maybe #6 or #8. A great product that I was unable to source elsewhere.

Answered on 05/26/2015 by LANCE FRANKE
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how wide is this brass half oval ?

Asked on 04/02/2015 by John Cothren

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1/2 inch

Answered on 04/02/2015 by DAVID STANLEY
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3/8 inch

Answered on 04/05/2015 by THOMAS DICKE

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I bought 1/2inch. I don't know if they have this in the size you need.

Answered on 04/03/2015 by DAVID STANLEY

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thanks but looking for something at least 1.5 - 2 inch

Answered on 04/03/2015 by John Cothren
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I plan to install the brass half-oval trim as a rub rail. Is there any special process needed to bend the rail 90 degrees around the transom?

Asked on 06/23/2013 by BOB BLACKSTOCK

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I was able to bend it quite well, but bending it gradually rather than using a lot of pressure. Also, an old-timer, who worked with brass, always said if in doubt heat the brass (not to red) with a torch then let it cool and it bends much easier. Good luck.

Answered on 06/24/2013 by ROLF ETHUN
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No special process needed. I bent it up and over the keel at the bow (slightly more than 90 degrees) by hand with no issues. Brass is very soft and easy to work with. Good luck!

Answered on 06/23/2013 by ERIC SANDIN

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You'll have to anneal the brass by heating it to just a dull red (Don't overheat). I quenched mine in water and had no problems hand bending this trim around the cutwaters on my double-ender Rangeley boat. there is a very good forum at woodenboat dot com about this.

Answered on 06/25/2013 by STEVE WALTERS

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The brass will bend fairly easily provided that the corner is well rounded. I installed it on the bow stem of my boat by attaching the bow end with countersunk screws and then carefully bending the brass to conform to the curve and attaching it. The holes for the screws should not be drilled in the curved portion until after it is bent. If you do it ahead of time, the brass will be weaker at that point and may bend sharply. Hope this helps.

Answered on 06/23/2013 by TOM GORMAN
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How thick is the one inch wide rail?

Asked on 04/10/2018 by Andrew from Ft. Lauderdale, FL

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Hi Andrew, the 1" half oval is roughly .264" thick from my measurement.

Answered on 06/04/2018 by JD Tech Associate
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I'd say about .25" at the thickest. Bendable but not flexible,,. ###- Please type your reply above this line -### Can you answer Andrew's question about this product? Solid Back Brass Half Oval Trim thick is the one inch wide rail?" Simply Reply to this email Thank you in advance if you are able to answer the question. Your email address will not be shared with this customer or other shoppers. We may post your answer to our site to benefit other shoppers. By replying to this email you agree to the privacy Update your preferences Unsubscribe from answering questions about all products

Answered on 04/10/2018 by edombroskas

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I don't understand the question. RBP

Answered on 04/10/2018 by peterson_richard
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