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TotalBoat Lust Marine Varnish Customer Questions and Answers

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after I sand the wood can I apply the varnish?

Asked on 06/14/2015 by Undisclosed

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Get off any loose existing varnish, sand everything, tack it with mineral spirits and apply a first thinned coat. We only just started using it but early results look very promising; fast dry, lays out fairly well and high build.

Answered on 06/15/2015 by RICK WILLIAMS
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Strip all old varnish first Sand with 120 then 220 Dilute first coat 50 % with thinner 2nd coat 30 % with thinner Next 4 coats thin to brush g consistency only Sand with 220 between coats

Answered on 06/14/2015 by Kenneth Weinstein

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Yes, just make sure the surface is dust free.

Answered on 06/18/2015 by jeffrey voss

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Yes...I just blew off sawdust with aurgun ...wiped wuth tack rag and applied full strength....did 3 coats n scratch up with scotch brite pad and applief 2 more. Looks great but will havr to wait n see how it holds up

Answered on 06/14/2015 by HARVEY MILES

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Have not used yet.

Answered on 06/14/2015 by GERALD WINKLE

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thin the first coat as per instructions then coat full strength exnt product

Answered on 06/17/2015 by art cestaro

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Yes. Be sure to get rid of the dust after sanding. Thin the first coat a bit with mineral spirits so it soaks in. Sand between coats then apply without thinning.

Answered on 06/14/2015 by MICHAEL GEORGE

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Why not, just wipe all dust and start varnishing.

Answered on 06/14/2015 by VADIM SHUMEY

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If the wood is bare after sanding, the directions advise to apply a thinned coat first, as a sealer. If not bare, the first coat does not need to be thinned.

Answered on 06/15/2015 by CHARLES BERNSTEIN

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Yes. If you are coating bare wood be sure to remove any sanding dust. I vacuum and use a tack rag and then a final wipe down with mineral spirits. Follow the directions for first 50/50 coat and be sure to use the correct thinner.

Answered on 06/15/2015 by JOHN SPICER
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Can Lust be used as a clear coat over a EZ Poxy paints?

Asked on 05/12/2016 by John Monti

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No, because Total Boat Lust Varnish is not clear, nor was it designed to be used as a Clear Coat. It's a tented stain.

Answered on 05/12/2016 by Terrence Simmons
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I have not tried that application. Don't know

Answered on 05/12/2016 by Raymond Guidos

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i have only used it on bare wood and varnished surface.

Answered on 05/13/2016 by LARRY MURPHY

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That sounds like a technical question, but I'll weigh in. I don't think there would be a chemical compatibility problem using Lust as a clear coat. Question is: why clear coat over a glossy surface that has all the uv protection of an opaque paint? Any varnish will deteriorate before your ezpoxy I would think. But, if I felt the need to put a clear coat on, I wouldn't hesitate using the Lust varnish.

Answered on 05/13/2016 by DWIGHT JACOBSON

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I did not use Lust over paint, I used it as a clear coat over west system two part epoxy. It worked beautifully and is providing a great finish for my cockpit seating on my Beneteau 370

Answered on 05/12/2016 by Mike Daly

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Oh, of course..glitter, didn't think of that. I've got a user disco ball if that might add to the project? Have fun.

Answered on 05/13/2016 by DWIGHT JACOBSON

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Thanks. Looking to put a clear coat with glitter added over the ezpoxy paint coat. Though I know it is not water clear.

Answered on 05/13/2016 by John Monti

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thanks

Answered on 05/12/2016 by John Monti

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Thanks Mike, I guess my concern is if the Lust would pull or cause crazing on a paint surface. Sounds like it works well over two part epoxy, a more durable surface than paint.

Answered on 05/12/2016 by John Monti
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Can Lust be applied over clear epoxy to protect the epoxy from UV exposure? The application is a wood strip canoe.

Asked on 09/10/2015 by Undisclosed

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I just finished putting the Lust over the top of 4 coats of west system epoxy. The first part I did I put it on straight out of the can. It was hot and humid out and I wasn't getting as smooth coat as I wanted, but it was a thick coat. I then discovered if I used four parts lust one part xylene it worked great. Five thin coats over the weekend and it looks great.

Answered on 09/11/2015 by LEROY HEIKES
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ive used it over epoxy seems to work fine

Answered on 09/10/2015 by art cestaro

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My varnishing project got delayed by other projects. I plan to use Lust over an epoxy coated wood "Annapolis Wherry". On previous,varnish over epoxy, projects I have used other varnish with excellent results

Answered on 09/10/2015 by PRESTON WATTERS

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I used the product for the first time this year and it does what I bought it for; a nice looking finish each spring without all the work involved with other varnishes. I think it would perform as well as another varnish for your application. That being said, I also think you should rephrase your question to something like, "is varnish a good UV coating over epoxy?" I understand the answer to that to be "no". My understanding is that there are clear coat finishes out there that are more suited to that application.

Answered on 09/14/2015 by CAREY ROUTLEY

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I have done that on my boat. It's lasted all summer outdoors without any yellowing.

Answered on 09/10/2015 by DAVID RUSSELL

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This was the exact application that I used lust for and, to date, has worked well. Be sure to flatten the epoxy coat well (sand lightly) before application of the varnish if you want to build that classic shine.

Answered on 09/10/2015 by JIM DUMSER

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That's a good question. I wouldn't risk it unless I had an answer from the manufacturer. I know they were correct about the fast dry/recoat time. Curiously, it would dry to the touch and be recoatable as fast as we could work our way around the cap rail but all the many coats remained soft for days in the summer here in the tropics. Leave an impression with our thumb soft. Don't step on it soft for many days. We were wondering if it would ever get hard but it did and seems to be viable.

Answered on 09/10/2015 by RICK WILLIAMS

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Yes it can. I have done the same with the wood combings on my sailboat with great results.

Answered on 09/10/2015 by WILLIAM PORTER

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Yes it can and I did have some epoxy under my first coat. As with anything going over epoxy, wash the blush off and sand so there is a good key to adhere to. I was using West System.

Answered on 09/10/2015 by Kenneth Weinstein
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I am a woodturner and continually look for finishes to put on wood bowls and other items, made of wood, that I turn. Which product would you recommend for this purpose? I like a high gloss finish.

Asked on 07/21/2015 by Henry D. Johnson

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Total Boat Lust can, in fact, be applied once every hour-hour and a half, as advertised depending on the temp. A quick build up of coats, BUT, not terribly hard finish. Finished the job with at least 2 coats of a harder slow drying varnish to a classy gloss.

Answered on 07/21/2015 by DAVID POST
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I imagine that the use of a varnished wood bowl is considerably different from where I used the Lust product from Jamestown Distributors. I would think you'd need something that might be food safe but here's my experience with "Lust" varnish. We used it on our caprail and I switched to that from my normal Awlbrite three part clear wood finish because it advertised the ability to recoat up to 5 times in one day. We used it on our britework on our 38' ketch and did find that we could recoat as quickly as we could get around the whole boat which was a bonus. What we also found was that the product remained soft and easily damaged for several days. Perhaps that was because the summer sun kept it soft but we liked the quick dry but did not like the very long time to harden. The color is good: clear amber, flow was also good and grain fill appeared to be as effective as other varnish products. It was also a bonus that we didn't have to carefully mix three different components.

Answered on 07/22/2015 by RICK WILLIAMS

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This one is probably highest gloss product.

Answered on 07/21/2015 by VADIM SHUMEY

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As a owner of custom woodworking shop I would recommend Totalboat gloss. It has linseed oil in it and stays flexible after curing. Make sure the first coat is thinned 50% and 30% each coat after. The instructions say don't thin after the primmer coat but it is too thick out of the can and won't lay flat. Lust will work and dries really fast which I use on mahogany but is not as flexible as the gloss. Each product dries to a very bright gloss finish but you have to thin to get it to lay flat. You can wipe on your turnings. I spray both finishes in the shop with great results.

Answered on 07/27/2015 by BOB PUTT

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The finish is not as high gloss as some other marine finishes so my answer is no.

Answered on 07/22/2015 by MICHAEL GEORGE

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I am a woodturner also if u want a very high gloss finish I recommend lust varnish thin first coat as per directions then add as many coats as it takes to get the desired finish. u will be amazed at the finish u get with lust. I used it on the mahogany on a boat I am restoring and am very happy at how it filled the grain. also no sanding between coats if done before 48 hrs.

Answered on 07/22/2015 by art cestaro

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Hello Henry D.J. I recently used a quart kit of TOTALBOAT LUST VARNISH for the exterior teak trim and marine plywood companionway boards on a sailboat. I had thoroughly cleaned and sanded the pieces prior to applying the varnish. In the past I have used a tinted teak finish that I felt masked the full beauty of the natural teak. As this is a non-tinted clear finish it really brought out the natural wood tones with a high gloss finish and I am very pleased with the results. The marine plywood also finished very nicely. I applied 8 coats with sanding after coats 1,2,4 and 7. The finish was so nice after the 8th coat I did not sand though I believe the instructions recommended it. Not having to sand after each coat is a real time saver and from what I can see does not detract from the finished product. The time interval between coats depended on when I could put something else aside to recoat, averaging about 2 to 3 hours. Teak is an absorbent soft wood hence the 8 coats to prolong the interval for the next time refinishing is required. You may find less coats are required depending on the wood you are working with. I would recommend TOTALBOAT LUST VARNISH based on the results, ease of use and cost. I am very pleased with my results and wish you well with your turning and finishing.

Answered on 07/22/2015 by CHRIS LONERGAN
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Can this be used over epoxied fiberglass?

Asked on 06/05/2016 by bill clawsom

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Yes it can. Just be sure to sand and tack the epoxy surface before applying Lust, just as you would any other varnish.

Answered on 06/05/2016 by CHARLES BERNSTEIN
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Lust is a fast drying varnish. While it can be used over epoxied fiberglas, why would you? Varnish is used over wood to brighten the wood and to protect it from UV. Now, if you put a coat of epoxy over wood then you wanted to protect it, Lust would be one method. But epoxy over fiberglas? I'd use paint.

Answered on 06/05/2016 by MICHAEL S. ELLEGOOD

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Yes. It works great.

Answered on 06/05/2016 by DAVID RUSSELL

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I have used it over epoxied surfaces before (wood) and it seems very stable

Answered on 06/06/2016 by jeffrey voss

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Yes, I have recently used over Total Boat Epoxy on both a mahogany canoe with great success and over paint on a New Caledonia Yawl. You get a great finish but as with any varnish preparation and a good location that out of sun and dust helps.

Answered on 06/05/2016 by RICHARD SCHNEIDER

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sorry, already saw my answer

Answered on 06/05/2016 by bill clawsom
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Can this be applied over epoxy? One of the questions/answers eluded to that it wasn't good for this. but it seems if the epoxy surface (4 coats/sanded repeated of epoxy) is sanded it would work. It would show whatever is showing through the epoxy coats but act as a UV varnish. Correct?

Asked on 04/02/2016 by Tony Painter

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I only applied over bare wood but it should work over epoxy as well. larry

Answered on 04/12/2016 by LARRY MURPHY
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Seems logical but we have no real experience with that application!

Answered on 04/03/2016 by MICHAEL DORTON

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I have only used it over new wood and previously varnished surfaces and I am very happy with the way it goes on and the end results. have not tried it over epoxy

Answered on 04/03/2016 by Raymond Guidos

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Yes I have done exactly this! I applied over sanded epoxy and it looks great!

Answered on 04/03/2016 by GREG ANDERSON

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Yes, you are correct. The final sand I used was 220 grit and worked out very well.

Answered on 04/03/2016 by Warren Rosenkranz

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Yes it can be applyed over epoxy. I'm restoring a 1968 28ft. offshore sportfisher and I purchased this material the decorative wood rail caps on the outside of my boat. The proper way to use this with epoxy is to 1. Sand the material you will be coating 2. apply a THIN coat of epoxy 3. lightly sand with 220 grit or higher ( apply several coats of epoxy and sand between each coat) 4. after final coat of epoxy apply THIN coats of varnish (With the Lust varnish you do not have to sand between coats) HAPPY BOATING AND BE SAFE

Answered on 04/02/2016 by Terrence Simmons
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I have used a spar 1-part varnish on some exterior teak (splash boards and handrails). Can I simply sand and re-varnish with Lust to improve the UV resistance? If so, how many coats would you recommend?

Asked on 03/16/2016 by John J Jungclaus

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I just did a wood / canvas canoe that had some unknown varnish on the wood parts. I lightly scuffed it with 220 and put on 4 coats of the Total lust gloss. Only sanded again lightly with 320 before the final coat. Looks great, was easy to put on did not thin. Drys fast. Going to use again on the next canoe. Jim Cleveland Oh

Answered on 03/16/2016 by JAMES DALTON
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John: I think you would be fine with sanding and re-coating with Lust Spar Varnish. I used it to put 7 coats on a 1942 Old Town wood and canvas canoe. It was quite easy to use, leveled well, and made a beautiful finish. I was varnishing spruce, eastern white cedar, western red cedar and ash. The great thing about Lust is that you can apply multiple coats in a short period of time.

Answered on 03/16/2016 by RICHARD APPLEGATE

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Thanks for the info and reinforcing my thoughts on its use guys. I often strip down to bare wood when I go to another brand, but I took it to base wood this winter and have already added at least 15+ coats, from 25/75, 50/50 and full strength and it looks gorgeous. I was thinking a light sanding, then a 50/50 mix before adding 3 or 4 coats of Lust would significantly increase the uv resistance and probably give even greater luster. Thanks again!

Answered on 03/19/2016 by John J Jungclaus

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John, Not sure if the Lust will adhere to another varnish product. I would think so. Best to call technical assistance. Doug

Answered on 03/16/2016 by Doug vAUGHN

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That should work just fine. I bet you could get away with 4 coats.

Answered on 03/16/2016 by MIKE HAIRRELL

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2 coats

Answered on 03/19/2016 by TERRY TOBITT
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Can this be used over polyurethane floors?

Asked on 01/20/2016 by Lynn Niles

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I have not tried it over polyurethane, I have used it over epoxy on my boat it has held up everywhere except were my feet rub back and forth on the deck while rowing.

Answered on 01/21/2016 by LEROY HEIKES
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I have not tried it but shouldn't be a problem. Just sand lightly before and clean up the dust before you apply lust.

Answered on 01/21/2016 by MICHAEL GEORGE

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I think it is a great specialty varnish because of the number of coats you can apply in a day. However, I have not tried it on any wear surfaces and because it is pretty new maybe no-one else has either. You could be a pioneer!! Varnish up a couple of boards that you can put a lot of traffic on in a short time; and that may be your best answer. Good luck!!!

Answered on 01/21/2016 by CAREY ROUTLEY

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I would say yes. As with all finishes you need to sand the existing finish to remove gloss and make the floor completely clean. This is a great product and the teak on my boat looks fantastic. I would also say this is way more expensive a coating than you need. Just get some poly at the hardware store.

Answered on 01/20/2016 by MICHAEL FLOOD

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Ask manufacture. I doubt it.

Answered on 01/21/2016 by SHIRLEY BLY

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I have no experience with this application. Fantastic on bare teak up to 12 coats. Very happy so far.

Answered on 01/21/2016 by BERT KELLY
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Can I apply it over the existing finish? I'm trying to touch up the finish on the Teak

Asked on 06/15/2016 by Dave Nussdorfer

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I applied it over regular varnish and it worked well. I also it over a surface previously treated with Cetol and it did not hold up.

Answered on 06/15/2016 by CHARLES FRIES
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We used on the masts and bright wood which we took completely down to bare wood, then applied 8 coats of Lust Spar Varnish!

Answered on 06/16/2016 by ROB JAHN

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I applied this to my handrails after scuffing with scotchbrite pad. Rails were previously coated with Cetol. Came out nicely.

Answered on 06/16/2016 by EMORY SHOVER

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I have. I lightly sanded with 320 grit. I then applied several coats following products instructions. The teak looks great!

Answered on 06/16/2016 by LYNN DUNCAN

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The directons will tell you but I'd much prefer to start with bare wood. We found this material to be very user friendly after using Awlbrite for years. It's very difficult to get 5 coats on in one day under normal conditions but we did manage to get 3 in one day pretty dependably and it appears to be holding up fairly well after a year.

Answered on 06/16/2016 by RICK WILLIAMS
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is Matte finish the same as semi-gloss?

Asked on 07/12/2018 by Loren from Wisconsin

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Matt is a flat finish, much less sheen than semi-gloss.

Answered on 07/12/2018 by JD Tech Associate
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I doubt it very much. I haven't used the matt version of Lust, but I know that when manufacturers say 'matt,' they mean no shininess or gloss at all. Last year I put 3-4 coats of the gloss version of Lust on a wooden canoe. I'm not experienced, but I had already used another, much slower drying varnish elsewhere on the canoe. I was very pleased with the Lust varnish, because it was much quicker to apply, and gave a nice finish. I don't know how well it will stand up in service, but so far it's looking very good. Sent: 12 July 2018 13:50

Answered on 07/12/2018 by timstammers

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I have only used their gloss product. I like it. Matte is probably flat - no gloss or perhaps egg shell - well less shine than semi-gloss.

Answered on 07/13/2018 by casa

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No. They are different, a matte finnish is closer to a satin finish, where as a semi-gloss finish has less gloss than a high gloss finish. Frank

Answered on 07/12/2018 by fdg123
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