Armada Wood Finish is a long-lasting, durable coating that beautifies and protects expensive hard woods from the harsh elements of the marine environment.
When applied, the oil alkyd resin based formula penetrates the surface of the wood, sealing and protecting it. Subsequent coats bond with the first, building-up to a semi-hard varnish-like coating.
Because this coating is microporous and relatively flexible, it allows the wood to breathe and flex without causing the coating to crack or peel. Armadas finished color is similar to varnish, in both the gloss and the satin version; because it is translucent, the finished color is dependent on the original color of the wood.
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Translucent finishes for interior and exterior wood and teak
Superb to wood oils, stains and varnish
Iron oxide pigments shield the wood against UV sunlight
Easy to apply, quick drying, flexible, superb flow and leveling
Allows the wood to breathe and moisture to escape
No sanding require between coats
Choose from a Satin or Gloss finish in Clear, Original, or Dark. Available in 1 gallon or 1 quart cans.
Blue Water Marine
I have 3 coats of original satin on my teak plywood 017Q .is it ok to put a coat of clear gloss over the satin?. do I have to sand first?
Yes, I would sand it first.
I have used Armada Original Gloss on my teak brightwork for the past 20years. The advantage in my opinion being that it is a one part application as compared to Cetol which requires application of initial coat(s) of satin followed by a clear coat to achieve the gloss finish. If you are starting with bare wood, I would use clear gloss, original gloss, or dark gloss - three coats depending on your preference for color. I am uncertain whether any controlled studies have been conducted that show difference in UV protection between the shade variations of gloss (dark>original>dark) which may influence durability/longevity. Likely if your Armada Satin brightwork is in good repair a light sanding with 120 grt or a maroon scotchbrite pad can be overcoated with Armada clear gloss, original gloss or Dark gloss to achieve a gloss finish. I have found that in the northern Chesapeake Bay area sanding and reapplication of a couple new coats every 18 months is recommended.
I would lightly sand with grade 220 sandpaper and then use clear gloss.
It has worked fine for me to put a final coat of gloss over the satin or to do the build coats in gloss and then to put a final coat of satin. While it is not necessary to sand before the final coat I always sand lightly with 220 to flatten any dust particles that have setteled in the finish during the previous coats for a smoother final finish.
What is the right temp. for applying Armada. Can it be done this time of year?
Yes just prep the wood good and be sure to bleach it to kill any fungi.As long as the temperature isn't below 50 and humidity isn't high you're ok.
The best temp is around 75, but I've done it in colder temps with longer drying times. You can touch it and if it feels tacky, wait more time.
I believe the paint can gives the info you are looking for. In my experience, the warmer and drier, the better, humidity in the 70% range, temp. above 60, the problem is getting that this time of year, at least in the Pacific Northwest. If you could get 60/70-ish, at least (temp/humidity) and get it on before 2pm you might be okay. Armada is more forgiving than spar varnishes. Invest in a humidity meter, watch the weather forecast, and I wish you good luck.
Personally I'm moving away from armada as. It didn't perform well for me. I'd suggest real varnish like Epiphanes or captains.
I have applied Armada in temps of 50 degrees or greater and up to 90 degrees if not in direct sunlight for base coat to final third or more coating layer.KB11/1/14
What is the difference between original and clear satin?
I am sorry, I am unable to answer the question. I have only used the one of the two the question asks about.
"Original" Armada is a Gloss varnish. The term "Original" is probably used because it was the first product introduced by the company. Clear Satin is a "Dull" finish for those who like a non-glossy finish.As with many teak finishes, they dcome in "Clear" and "Gold Tone". Norm
a flatter, more soft finish for the satin. Is not a glossy finish like a well done ten coat varnish job.Ken B.
Original has a color that when dry is darker than the clear. The Clear allows the color of the wood and its corresponding grain to shine through. I have used as many as 6 coats of Clear Gloss on my exterior teak with results that match the best looking varnishes. I usually lightly sand 220 my teak surfaces and recoat annually. The product works best when used following a wiping of the surface to be coated with mineral spirits.Good Luck
The "original" has a somewhat cloudy appearance; the "clear satin," of course, is clear. I used clear satin but I've seen the original on a friend's boat.
WHAT IS THE BEST DECK VARNISH ?
I never used varnish on my boat's 1939 5/4" decks. Hosed them regularly with clean salt water, occasionally using a soft brush on stubborn dirt. The were a lovely shade of gray when dry, and when wet, they were golden.
Unfortunately I am not able to help with this one, I have not dealt with varnishing any decks,. Bear in mind it looks great but you will need to put some kind of non skid product into final coat or you will have a VERY slippery deck, good luck.....Teresa G
Since you are referencing the Armada wood finish I would only say, Do Not use it on any surface you would be walking on! The Armada finish dries to a smooth glossy surface. It would be extremely slippery when wet. It's great for trim and handrails etc.and I would highly recommend it but I can't recommend anything for decks as I always left my teak deck bare to provide the best footing. Good luck.
Can I use Armada on an existing varnish surface or do I need to sand to bare wood? How many coats are recommended? Do I sand between each coat? Thank you.
Paul, I always removed all old varnish before applying the Armada Teak coat but I think it would probably work satisfactorily over old varnish, I would sand it lightly first. With the Armada you do not need to sand between coats. I always try to apply three coats to bare wood but only one or two to touch up once a year thereafter. For areas that do not get direct sunlight you may get away with skipping a year between coats.I was very happy with this product and highly recommend it.
Hey Paul, NO , you should not apply over existing old varnish. For BEST results, sand to bare wood, info on product suggests maybe 3 or 4 coats, but for my money and effort put into any project, more is better. I like to apply at least 6 , you get a much better, longer lasting Finnish. Of course that is up to you but you will get a glossier Finnish and fas I said it will hold up better. No matter how many coats you decide you will still have to put maintenance coats on within the year to keep the integrity , depending on the environment that you live in, here on the coast the sun really does a number on ANY product. I find that it is a great product , compared to the Sikkens cetol, but it is not comparable to varnish but then again it is a LOT less work given there is no sanding needed between coats and it is a lot more "user friendly" You do not need to sand between coats but sometimes I like to give a very light sand just so I can see where I am as applying, but be sure to wipe down well with denatured alcohol between coats to remove "stuff " in the air that will have fallen on the wood, again with weather and environmental conditions . Good luck, hope I was of some assistance, I have used a lot of Armada gloss on numerous boats and people are mostly VERY happy
I'm not totally sure about applying it over an existing varnish finish - perhaps this info is on the label. But the nice thing about Armada is that you DO NOT have to sand between coats.
I would not use that finish it is garbage and it's over priced. I would use a tongue oil. Waterlox is a great brand especially if its outdoors. Definitely sand down to the bare wood and abraid between coats.
Paul,I am not sure if Armada is able to be used over varnish but I would lightly sand the varnish first if that was the application I was going to attempt. I am now in my 8th year of using Armada and I begin by stripping existing finishes to bare wood every 5 years. I then apply Armada over the bare wood and sand only after the first coat. The remaining successive coats do not require sanding and I usually apply 3 or 4 coats per season. The finish achieved allows protection of the teak while still visualizing the grain of the wood. Many fellow boaters have seen my Armada application and switched from the products they currently are using. At the beginning of each season I lightly sand the washed surfaces with 220 grit sand paper and apply my 3 coats for the year. Love this product ... I use the water clear and allow the colorant to be the hue of the teak.
You probably could but I wouldn't guarantee the results. Try one section of about a foot long. Prep surface with sand paper and apply Armada. Allow to dry. Sand with a 220 or larger number and apply a second coat to stabilize the color. If you are not happy - sand to bare wood.
CHARLES J. MCGINNIS
Unless they have changed the formula, you must go to bare wood before applying Armada. It makes sense: varnish peels. Armada does not peel, it gets thinner, and you can easily buff it up with a Scotch Bright pad and recoat with Armada. Armada, as I recall, recommends 2 coats. I recommend 3 if it is exposed to weather... prolongs need to recoat. You don't have to sand between coats if you follow their recommended times. If I see brush marks or anything that detracts from the finished results, I sand lightly and then USE A TACK RAG. My bright Sitka spruce main, mizzen, booms and staysail jib lasted 5 years before I needed to recoat - and they still looked great! I painted over the Armada at the tops of the masts with white in the traditional manner. Armada is stunning on mahogany. Oh, if you scratch the wood or even gouge it, touch it up right away so that water or humidity doesn't stain the wood. No more building up 8 layers!!
Armada recommends that you remove all other finishes to bare wood & clean with acetone before applying. I use three coats on bare wood and have not sanded between them.
Armada is a soft varnish and can be applied over hard varnishes, but not vise versa.If you're happy with the existing finish, layer it with Armada.I use three coats over bare wood.Armada says don't and between coats, but I take off the Nibs with 220.
Armada should be used on bare wood to get the benefit of it's micro- porus properties. The manufacturer reccomends 3 coats and no thinning. I find it too thick if unthined and usuallybthin it to brush easily and do 4 coats instead of 3. No sanding between coats is necessary but I sand before the final coat to get the smoothest finish
On bare wood, manufacturer recommends three coats applied not sooner than 24 hrs between coats with no sanding between coats. Every year they recommend sanding with 220 grit sandpaper or alternatively a maroon scotch bright pad and application of one coat of Armada. If the existing surface is well adhered and in good shape, I believe Armada can be applied over it.
I sand to bare wood if the Armada finish has been aged and is cracked or turning color. If I catch it in time I scratch the surface and cover over it. I put two coats on it.I do this twice a year and live in NC.
Paul I am uncertain whether Armada is compatible with varnish. I know it is with Cetol. I have used Armada for approximately 15 years on our current boat with very good results for the most part. It had also been used by the previous owner. When put on bare, cleaned and sanded teak they recommend at a minimum, 3 coats (24 hrs. between coats). No sanding is required between coats. They do recommend a light sanding for annual or semi annual touch up coats when done. I currently use natural gloss with the clear gloss over the top. Last year I applied 3 coats of each. Taking down to the bare teak is not normally needed annually.
I don't know if you can use it over varnish, but I think not. I do know that three coats are recommended and sanding between coats is not. Be very aware that this product takes *at least* 24 hours between coats. I've gone back to re-coat after just 24 hours and found the first coat to still be soft. This product is not ideal for people with limited windows of opportunity to get three coats on. However, once on, I think it looks better than Cetol and has a much more natural appearance.
Armada is a fairly normal oil base varnish with the addition of finely ground metallic particles to reduce sunlight deterioration. I did not overcoat old varnish but don't see why not assuming a light sanding to give fresh surface for the Armada to adhere to. Basically need something for it to grip. I had poor existing surface so removed it with a heat gun and Fiscars scraper. Area is fully exposed to shady/sun and still going after second season. Wood is 5/4" Mahogany seats in whaler.Ken B
Does the Armada dull finish contain any U V stabilizer additive, other than iron pigment additive ???
It's been several years since I purchased the dull finish; didn't think it held up as expected. Since then, I've used the gloss finish 7 feel it's more durable. Not sure about UV stabilizers/inhibitors. Reccommend contacting the manufacturer.
I don't know, but I bought and applied some a year+ ago and in the South Florida/Bahamas climate, it flaked off. However, I suspect the previous owner did not prepare the surface correctly. I did the whole teak stern of my GB 42 with Armada and had I knowm better I would have done this - which is what I just did on my teak cap rail. 1. Three coats of Smiths's CPES (Clear Penetrating Epoxy Sealer) Before 3rd coat dries, apply first coat of varnish.2. I used Epifanes high build no sand between coats -8 coats.3. Epifanes high gloss varnish - 6 coatsLooks Spectacular. Jamestown has these hard to find products too.
For 18 years I used Armada on the sitka spruce spars and on the Honduras mahogany cockpit of my 1939 37' Crocker ketch. I remember hearing about the efficient UV block provided by Armada and experienced how easy it was to use. I stripped and sanded all the brightwork and applied Armada. The rich color of the mahogany was enhanced and protected by Armada. The 50' mast and the mizzen held their tone and did not peel. The sun gradually thinned the Armada and after 5 years without being pulled or covered, it was time to sand and apply 3 coats. (I know, the directions say 2 coats, but while the spars are out of the boat, I think 3 coats provided some extra protection. I think there may be a UV stabilizer in addition to the iron oxide. I received hundreds of compliments about the appearance of the boat - Armada made it easy.
I do not know
I have never used the dull Armada dull finish. The Water Gloss finish has a moderate amount of UV stabilizer and I have been using it for 6 years. Easy to apply and with annual maintenance is a really nice product to apply. Many fellow boaters have seen my boat and have purchased the Armada product for their own use.
I don't know about a UV stabilizer. We have been using Armada for 14 years and we put one coat on in spring and one coat on in fall. It is always nice and shiny for the first 3 months and then dulls some but not that much. In 14 years we have only once stripped it completely and started over with about 7 layers as a base. Then our twice a year keeps the brightwork looking good.Hope this helps....Robin
a product i use
have used and trusted this product for years
Poor follow up from staff
I've used Armada satin wood finish for decades. Lately I've found it inconsistent from batch to batch so I called the manufacturer who told me the product had been reformulated and that they now offer a semi gloss as well as the satin. When I called Jamestown Distributors to see about availability I had to leave a message and no one returned my call
I like this product and the Qt size is perfect.
Woodwork for a Sabre 30.
I would definitely recommend this product.
Used on cypress swing outside in CA sunshine. Easy to apply if you follow directions and easy to renew annually. Left beautiful varnish like finish that has stood up very well to rain and sunshine.
CA Sierra Nevada Mts.
Armada Clear Satin
The previous owner of the boat used Armada clear satin on all the exterior wood. I have continued to use it as well. It is easy to apply, but I find it's durability questionable. I never get the opportunity to simply "apply additional coats" in the beginning of the season as the previous season's Armada needs to be re-prepped and sanded - and I apply 3 coats. I wish I could compare it to a traditional spar varnish in terms of durability......
this is a beautiful would finish.it takes some skill to apply as it is not water based. It is very durable and beautiful it allows the natural color of the wood to show through. You must allow 24 hours between coats. It does out gas alot. Despite this I do use it for indoor applications with excellent results.
I have used Armada for ten years.
Brushes on large teak deck. Lasts easily six months or more. Best product I have found!
Pompano Beach, FL
Used the clear satin - very nice product
This product looks like satin varnish but is much easier to use. I did 4 coats on bare teak, sanding only once lightly before the final coat. Having used varnish for many years, I have become a convert to this stuff. A friend who also used this came to the same conclusion.